Beyond Impossible Reform and Improbable Revolution

David Harvey and Leo Panitch on the contradictions of capitalism and how to build movements that go beyond localism.

David Harvey and Leo Panitch are two of the world’s most respected Marxist thinkers. Here, in a spirited conversation for Jacobin, they discuss Harvey’s new book, 17 Contradictions and the End of Capitalism; capital’s relationship to nature; and how to build visionary movements that go beyond just localism. And clash over a few things along the way.

David Harvey is professor of anthropology at the Graduate Center of the City University of New York. Leo Panitch is Canada research chair in comparative political economy at York University.

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About the Author

David Harvey is a distinguished professor of anthropology and geography at the Graduate Center of the City University of New York. His latest book is The Ways of the World.

Leo Panitch is a professor of political science at York University and the co-editor of the Socialist Register. His latest book, with Sam Gindin, is The Making of Global Capitalism.